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Wednesday, June 17, 2009

FLOYD WEBB IS NOT THE EXPERT ON JOHN KEEHAN

Marc Lully knew John Keehan threw porno.

A little story from my father.

Lully tried to use John Keehan as a buffer about not paying street taxes and using John name as supposed muscle. And that why the mob showed up at the car lot you can reference that from Bob Cooleys book. That ended that. The mob tried to silence John Keehan twice in two weeks prior, John thought he was being mugged. One time at Cabrine Green three guy armed with knives tried John lets just say they were unsuccessful.

And this is when he had a sit down with Tony Accardo first under boss to Sam Giancana. And then Sam Giancana himself and then they tried again.

And the second time it was coming out of Marc Lully's occult bookstore Atlantis on the north side. And he was going to his brown cadillac with the gold crest on it. My fathers laughs and said he use to tell Keehan that that was a target the golden crest..

Then Giancana was brought back again because he couldnt get rid of the guy. They met at the Chicago playboy club were he was working doing make up.

What funny about it is alot of the stuff in the occult bookstore is the same stuff in Marc Lullys occult bookstore Atlantis. He has the same Rosecrusion book that Lully had in his. And alot of the wall hangings are the same..

Here is the occult bookstore in Chicago.http://occultbookstore.com/home/




Floyd Webb NEEDS TO REALIZE WE KNOW EVERYTHING THEIR IS TO KNOW ABOUT JOHN KEEHAN. He was my fathers personal friend. This stuff really pisses him off. I told Floyd Webb sometime ago this was Marc Lully. Well heres the proof. Looks like an older Marc Lully doesnt it. This footage was shot in the basement of John Keehan"s Tiara apartment. These guys hung around together.


I ask my father all the time "did he keep his personal life separate from his martial arts life and he always answerered "yes" he did.. But martial arists are egotists and they loved the broads John would bring around Fuck he said they were Playboy bunnies.. And John Keehan would gross them pout by telling them he would go down on girls with their periods and then he would pick the blood clots from his teeth.. He tells me that Im just like John and Bill and my father said. Im such a Ball busting prick. And that what John Keehan was a ball buster. That was John being John...

What you must all remember, they were personel friends of John Keehans. Everything in the magazineS are from fall River how is Webb going to explain that. He cant goes around us..


I was sitting in the car with my father and I asked him about John Keehan being ostracized. And specifally the dojo war. My father laughed and said Jim Konsevic was no choir boy and it would be a shame if Floyd Webb portrail of him would be like that..Who knows he said when he watches it he will know what the truth and whats bullshit..


As for being ostrasized that had more to do with him tell in the purists that their kata sucked,and it was inneffective. And that included Dwyer Felkoff, Edgell his friend were pissed.

Floyd Webb said to Chris Piescala that the were all part of some scam the "monestary of the seven rays"mail order thing, I say bullshit Marc Lully was a satanist and so was his gay counter part Bertrauix. Chris Pieschala told me Floyd Webb has nothing but 30 interviews and selected pictures and thats it.. About ten are martial artists trained with John Keehan. But the key ones are left out Ed Miller, Tom Sexton, Rob Rose.. The guys that counted to The World Karate federation


I've known of these people dating back into the early eighties. And my father knew them all personally in the 60's and the 70's.. Its you guys who dont know the truth..

The wrestlers stage name is Horst Rheinhart, but not his real name. He was a personel friend of William v Aguiar Jr. This nfootge was the only footage put in the mail order business. Floyd webb doesnt know what he talking about..

To Floyd Webb your blog is less about John Keehan, but I didnt say that Jack off. It was Lob Sing. Look Floyd you are Joey Chicago the IP's come to the Jazz Institue of Chicago. So its you or someone you know..So stop with your stupid ignorant shit you pompus fool..

GROW UP MY FATHER WAS JOHN KEEHANS BEST FRIEND.. THATS MY SOURCE AND JOHN COLE WHO DO YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF SOFT HANDED FAGS. HEY FLOYD LEARN A KATA OR SOMETHING.. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE ARTS SATANIST....

73 comments:

  1. A ha Aha A ha ha A ha AHAHAHA.

    I'm dying over here...

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  2. I dont think anyone cares. Well maybe just you

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  3. You care enough to come here and read it. Its the truth. I will continue to write the truth.

    Someone like Floyd Webb tries to say I dont tell the truth says who. Floyd Webbs story is so weak that its pitaful..

    His last post was about another ficticious person really saying nothing. He has no relevance at all pertaining to Keehan..

    Oh Floyd

    " Ya you are dying over their " and so is your "movie"...
    Finnish your movie. I need it
    Its gonna make excellant trailers...

    Whos laughing now$$$$$$$$$

    And who ever you are " dont read it "

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  4. Actually I didnt read past the first couple of sentences. Once I saw the line "this is a story from My father"
    I posted my comment.

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  5. How far did John Keehan throw that porn. hmmmmmm...How are you LOB SING???

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  6. Hey guys it is well known in fallriver this guy is full of shit and a liar.

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  7. It has already been proven that your precious film footage of the wrestler was not shot in fallriver nor was it shot by your father. Remember? The wrestler was indentified months ago,Dumb ass.

    Now you claim it was someone else. How childish. You would say anything to draw attention to yourself.

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  8. Floyd,
    You REALLY are dying over here. I've got in my possession my instructor's personal magazine collection. over 1500+ Karate Illustrated, Official Karate you name it. I offered you the chance like my personal student folder to look and take what you want for research .. but you wanted a sandwhich.

    So lets name names,
    WPKO = Almost a who's who in assholes.
    (Hi, Jimmy Jones the Midwest U.S. Representative)

    I'm going to pull one. You know from our conversations these are all people I've mentioned.
    Ron Collins - U.S. Washington D.C. Rep
    (ask Billy the third about him)

    Technical Advisors:
    Frank Ryan - The Next Deadliest Man Alive
    Prof. Rodney Sachornoski

    You remember the latter guy, you saw him teaching Dim Mak in Chicago .. I can point out all his schools in the back .. and I'm guessing where you saw him now.

    How about Official Karate Jan 75 an interview with Evertt "Monster Man" Eddy ... hmmm ...

    Black Belt Sept 1969 has Riley Hawkins.

    Oriental Fighting Arts Dec 1974 has not only the full page WDFS in it, but ironically on page 13 Lully's ad on Killer Kung-Fu "The Oriental Devil Fighting Society"

    And my personal favorite Official Karate Oct 1978 "They're not laughing at Count Dante Anymore"
    FALL RIVER!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN'T EXCLUDE THEM!!!!

    Matter of fact it explains Aguiar teaching and if you look on page 31, shit! Why could that be John F. Creeden Jr.?! They talk about Frank Ryan teaching Dim Mak (see soccer nazi above).

    So don't take my word for it. However like John the third it takes somebody to take all of this and put it in context. I can do it. John Jr. or Creeden the 3rd can, among others ... BUT you have a habit of screwing everybody that could help you.

    So riddle me this batman who gave Sheppard John Jr.'s phone number? The dipstick calls the day after you were there. Who suggested this movie to you? Who funded it initially? Why did you fly to Fall River just to get sued?

    "You don't know what I have." Frankly Floyd yes I do you have two things Jack and Shit and Jack just left.

    Whatever you think your film is going to be about .. won't be the truth. But I promise you, it will all come out.

    Enjoy court and letting your "little light shine" because you're such a dim bulb I don't need sunglasses. You'll be blinded by the light of the truth!

    And "NO" .. still not "Fall River white trash". White trash maybe, but at least I have integrity and I live in Chicago.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

    P.S. I love the way even Bullshido moved your crappy thread in to the comedy section.

    P.S.S. God bless you and keep you ;-)

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  9. Hello lob sing the true love of my life. Riddle me this falls River:

    Creedon the son is none too smart

    Billy billy he knows no art....

    These guys spell like rogues and all have too many toes....

    why did Dante go to Falls River?

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  10. YOU HAVE YOUR INSTRUCTORS PERSONAL MAGAZINE COLLECTION AND THAT DOES WHAT AGAIN?

    YOU GUYS WILL SAY ANYTHING.

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  11. Hey anonymous you nameless pussy ..

    I have his books, books, stock & inventory, accounting & student records among other things. Like a 20+ year personal history as a student and friend with the man & his family.

    Puss boy, you sound like one of Floyd's minions; it seems he loves to play internet games and try and steal his research. What's in it for you?

    I'll put this out there anybody who thinks I can't back it up come to Chicago. In the ring or out of it I assure you I can and will.

    It must really bother people that I've never been to nor met anybody in Fall River. I get along with them even like a couple of them and a few not so much. But here's somebody right in Chicago saying "No that story is B.S."

    You're mad because I hit you with public domain facts, proving again Floyd has an agenda his research is poor. Apparently I must know something after being named as his consultant and the way he got all huffy and puffy once I started talking publicly. Not to mention his actionable personal attacks for not doing as I'm told.

    So next time you want to mouth off put your name behind it coward .. if you want to challenge me do it to my face.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  12. And your school is where again?

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  13. The Fallriver guys dont have a school. Havent had one in years. This is easily verifible you can call a few schools or dojos that actually do exist there. They will confirm. Actually you will get a few statements on how full of shit they really are.

    I put them in the same league as Ashida Kim.

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  14. My school? Which one?

    I think the one you are thinking of is the one in her bedroom where they line up to teach "how-to-love-a-man-do"?

    If that was a challenge. And I mean this not as a threat; The out in the woods me, you & one nutral witness with a cell phone. Just so you can have somebody call the ambulance for you. You get the legal documentation I'll sign.

    In the woods there's nobody to break it up anythings goes and you can never say you didn't have a "fair shot". All I ask is you get a HIV test first for when I get your blood on me Mr. Pussy Anonymous.

    Again I pose the question "What's in it for you?"

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  15. So your an martial artist who has no school? Sounds like an Assida Kim operation.

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  16. Proof? You know what I do 24x7 ? Why should I explain anything to a nameless coward like you.

    I also noticed you punked out like a little girl when I offered you the chance to put your money where your mouth or wheelchair is .. I say that because you're hiding "Anonymous" .. Floyd, Ashida, Sheppard, one of Jerry's Kids or whomever you are; I don't care.

    You gotta be one of Floyd's little pom pom girls because you, like him, talk a lot but never say anything. Just insult. You also never answered "what's in it for you?" .. obviously something or you'd fade away like a fart or disco.

    Funny, out of all the crap I talked on Bullshido the only 2 people to call or even ask my number were John the 3rd & Darryl Simon. I figure because they were the only only honest ones with no motives.

    Talk, Talk, Talk .. this is no different than Bullshido just low life scum bags trying to piss off the people that know into giving up something because Floyd can't make an honest deal for materials or keep his word.

    Come to my house I don't care ask the last guys how that went. You want to run your mouth don't hide behind the keyboard. So keep trying you nameless skirt .. proof is coming.

    Too bad you won't see it in Floyd,s *cough* "documentary" *cough*.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  17. Okay fellas here we go more proof is on the way. Jeez.

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  18. How can dis be just lik Bullshido? There is no moderator except the Credden 3rd guy. He controls this. He can make it so only people with real names can leave messages if he wanted to. But i bet money he is scared to do that. Wht i bet is he would get fewer people bugging him if he made if like you had to have anems to say somehting here.

    And yeah, Bullshido move it to comedy, that is a good place for it. All we wan to know about is the court case between the Grand Masturb and that Webb guy. What do we get, people with other axes to gin over god knows what and from a minister too, who is supposed to be holy and I see him here talking abot blood other then Jesus blood.

    The comedy continues people. right here on blogger.

    Rev Piescala are you a brawler or a martial artist. why don't you have your own blog soyou can teach us abotu your vast knoledge of martial art. Like you said talk talk talk. That is all you seem to be doing. Everybody is claiming to b an expert here so show us where you are an expert. This is your chance.

    Oh and don't bother challeging me, man. I don't live in Chicago and I got no interest and do not claim to be an expert on anything but bullshit. All of you guys are full of it.

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  19. I KNOW WHAT YOU DO 24-7. SIT ON YOUR ASS BEHIND A KEY BOARD OBVIOUSLY.

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  20. I agree. A whole lot of bullshit here.

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  21. Never said I was a man of the cloth, just in inherited the position of one.

    I try my best but it's dick heads like you that bring out the worst in me. I figure

    I wasn't challenging you I was offering you the opportunity to put your money where your mouth is; so I can put your head where your colon is.

    See, stupid, what you miss is a Dante lesson 101. Like me or hate me the more I am talked about it's just free advertising. Money in my pocket & Creedens' (not a typo, Floyd) for running the blog. Bad press is better than no press.

    And who are you to judge faith anyway? You wouldn't be able to be able to type such moronic things and look like such an asshole if you had holes from the nails in your slimy little rat claws you call hands.

    And I am sure you have no interest in having your ass handed to you. so you have to get the last word in on John's blog .. whom doesn't censor anything unlike certain film makers .. so keep talking stupid. I'm sure we can gain more hits on google and the truth about dip shits like you, liars like Floyd & the truth will appear.

    Thanks for calling me "Reverend" though, a title I haven't earned. To you it should just be "revered". Let me guess you were stupid enough to pre-order? Good luck with that. And keep the witty retorts coming. I will be glad to call you an asshole every time you act like one.

    So go back to the queer bar cyber troll I'm sure Bertiaux and Lully miss you in their little homo ritual.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  22. You know you guys dont know the truth. You make a blanket statement then offere nothing to prove what you say. Saying your dad is so and so and my instructor left you something is not proof of anything.

    Riddle me this spongebob. What the fuck does lully or Beatruix have to do with martial arts any way?

    HELLO. It is not important.

    You keep yelling Dante was ostracized or people betrayed.

    People distanced themselves from Dante because he was in a word a major fuck up who got his buddy killed by fucking with people he shouldnt been fucking with in the first place.

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  23. If you are Catholic you need to go to confession. It will clear your conscious. You sound like a troulbed giuy Piescala. You look like you have some challenges and you are mot letting Gosd lead you on a righteous path. He will forgive you if you tuen to him and put yourself at his mercy. I figure you either wnt that or you just want to keep being Satan's dick fucking yourself up.

    I may have been like you once upon a time Piescala, but I know when I am full of shot. I don't yhink you do. Get in your scroipture man. Let God back inot your life, This is your choice. You are not looking good here.

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  24. Beauford (I'm digging that name),
    What are you a preacher now? Or personal coach? Or even somebody worth taking their "nickel's word of free advice"? Or do you even have anything to add about

    No. I never met you. Maybe your not even an asshole in real life. I don't know. I figure you like that guy everybody knew in school who never took a bath that everybody avoids due to the smell.

    But thanks for the post. Make you a deal, you keep posting & I'll keep calling you an asshole. Then this blog will get more hits than Floyd's.

    Not the sharpest crayon in the box are you?

    Just for the record, Protestant non-denominational. I can think for myself.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  25. Nameless coward above Beauford the asshole,

    Right on his blog if you read it, "Marc Lully knew John Keehan threw porno." Even Floyd says that and so does Bob Cooley in his book, "When Corruption Was King".

    Since you obviously can't read a blog you probably don't know who Bob Cooley is. He was John Keehan's lawyer who represented him at his trial in the dojo war. It's in his book too.

    Lully owned a chain of porn shops in Calumet city and was one of John's students. He like John were taking courses from Michael Bertiaux from the "Monistary of the 7 rays". Keehan used to be the protect Lully's "businesses".

    It was Lully that was heavy into the occult studies and how John got to meet Bertiaux whom "instructed" him on some of that mindless BS.

    What's this got to do with martial arts? First it helps define the kind of guy John was, both as a person & instructor. Secondly, ever hear "mind, body & spirit" ? I take it you not a martial artist. So go back to your barbie dolls.

    What else do you want to know? I love giving away information. Apparently I must know something because Floyd got kind of annoyed since I distanced myself from him.

    I love all the anonymous pussies here that attack John's character but have nothing to counter what he posts on his blog. Responses of "my father", "liar" and "full of shit" mean nothing other than you have an opinion. You never communicate what you base your opinion on. Bullshido? Floyd's blog? What?

    Bunch of ignorant cowards that won't even post their name. I'll give Mr. Beauford that one even if at this point in time I think he is an asshole.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  26. You are obviously trying to romanticize this mafioso and occult side Dante may or may not have had.

    In all honesty, the fact that you're trying to romanticize and exploit this particular image goes to show the kind of screwed up individual that you must be.

    So basically your pissed at Floyd because he is not interested in your particular slant on things.

    Well Boo hoo.

    Make your own documentary and put what you want in it.

    It is obvious you and Creepden are out of work ne'er do wells.

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  27. A seedy image indeed.

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  28. Hi Floyd!
    Stop being anonymous .. I can tell it's you by the verbiage.

    I'm not pissed I just think since you lack the facts you just make it up as you go along. Besides pissed implies I look up to you. I think that "scraped off the bottom of my shoe" is more apt.

    Maybe I should start a blog.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  29. I personally think these anonymous entries are all you and Creedon to make it appear that you guys are attracting more attention than you actually are.

    I think it is nothing more than a ploy to bring attention to yourselves. You obviously lack any credibility and would say or do anything to bring what a little attention you are getting from anyone.

    I doubt anything at this point that is offered up by anyone on this subject.

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  30. Floyd its about John Keehans life right or wrong.

    So Floyd you think you know it all you dont. I love the comment thats states that the footage wasnt shot by my father. And the wrestler was identiifed. Ya by me mailing you a very rare piece of the mail order business. Horst Rheinhart, and ya it was a stage name. So fuck you..

    Then who shot it was it Bob Sandon Dwyers uncle...Who stated that their wasnt a buy out of the Worlds Deadliest Fighting Secrets. But it never showed up in any of your court case. Thats shows that what you write is bullshit. These are the things that you write which simply arent true at all..

    Bertrauix and Lully what do they have to do with this. Their satanists who were unfortunatly are the one responsable for most of John Keehan's twisted behavior.

    Webb knows this realm well. His lust for power and control are evident that he wasnt taught properly.

    Ask Floyd webb this?

    1. Who gave Barron Shepperd John Creeden Jr's phone number.

    answer; You did Floyd Webb.

    P.S.

    I will not censor my blog. I have nothing to hide. I write the truth and it drives Floyd webb and his cronies fuckin crazy...

    So fuck you Barron,Floyd Webb, Radford Davis,John Patricio

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  31. " Anonymous said...
    You know you guys dont know the truth. You make a blanket statement then offere nothing to prove what you say. Saying your dad is so and so and my instructor left you something is not proof of anything.

    Riddle me this spongebob. What the fuck does lully or Beatruix have to do with martial arts any way?

    HELLO. It is not important.

    You keep yelling Dante was ostracized or people betrayed.

    People distanced themselves from Dante because he was in a word a major fuck up who got his buddy killed by fucking with people he shouldnt been fucking with in the first place."

    Hey dick face,
    You forget the 20+ years I knew the man his family & friends.

    Floyd you're just pissed because YOU HAVE NOTHING. And you know we're going to prove it after you can do NOTHING about it.

    I know you have nothing. Or do I need to post chat logs again?

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  32. You idiots could try posting proof instead of allegations.

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  33. How is anything by Dante considered rare?

    Nothing from Dante is rare or a collector's item you fuckin moron.

    Even Ed Parker's stuff isnt considered rare or a collector's item and he did a hell of alot more than Dante.

    WTF?

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  34. Anonymous said...

    I personally think these anonymous entries are all you and Creedon to make it appear that you guys are attracting more attention than you actually are.


    I think this guy has a point. Creedon has posted under a helluva alot of aliases. I would not put it past him to have made all of the above entries himself.

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  35. Really Floyd?
    Why won't you use your real name then?

    Who gave Sheppard John Jr.'s phone number?
    The dipstick calls the day after you were there.

    Who suggested this movie to you?

    Who funded it initially?

    Why did you fly to Fall River just to get sued?

    Is it just a strange coincidence that this project started just Billy the third's father died? I think he may have handled this situation differently.

    If Creeden's Dad was the photographer, how much stuff do you thing he has? I know he ran many of John's businesses because Crista couldn't be trusted not to skim. I'm betting he would have all the tax and accounting records & receipts.

    He won't give you the time of day at a watch convention. Why?

    Well he told me it was Barron Sheppard also you not knowing how Fall River and Martial Artists are said "all martial arts guys are in it for the money and nobody cares about their students". Right there he thought you could play a very long game of "hide and go screw yourself".

    I asked him & can get him on the phone at will. Just like like I can get Barb Kemp or John Cole. Two very key people you don't have. How many others could I get? You'll never know. Just like what's in Billy's archive or what John's father has.

    Told you I was going to Fall River for myself. Just like in 2006 I told you not to, "I was invited". Yeah but you could have declined. Now they have you by the short in curlies & no telling what's next.

    Told ya I knew OF them and by reputation. I was told by my instructor never go there, but now that I've talked to them via phone it's OK. Too easy to get off on the wrong foot with them.

    You not only got off on the wrong foot but tripped and fell on that HUGE ego of yours. Searing said the same thing and "he talks & talks but never says anything .. he should gointo politics." (Call ask him)

    Maybe politics would be a good move you seem to have "campaign promises" down to art and like getting stuff for free.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

    P.S. I never post anonymously it would be one less google hit ..

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  36. This is hilarious. I was one of the cops on detail the night of the so-called "dojo war." All those guys were fuck-ups and assholes. It was a brawl between assholes with bad judgement and a lot of metal on the walls. I see the legacy continues. I admit, when I heard about this stuff, I was skeptical. But now I see it it is hilarious. I can't wait to see this film. Not a highlight but definitely a moment in my career.

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  37. Assholes fuckups and bad judgement.... Amen brother, AMEN

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  38. Then why not post your name?

    I respect ol' Beauford for that. He's standing up and putting his name where his opinion is .. not just chiming in with "Assholes fuckups and bad judgement.... Amen brother, AMEN" anonymously.

    I must say that not even our esteemed member of the law enforcement community signed his name.

    My guess is ol' Floyd made a phone call to a contact because he is getting picked on. My guess is that if he is an officer from the 14th District (Chicago's 1st ward if you read Cooley's book) & was there then he's an excellent person for Floyd to talk to about this.

    I'd even hazard to guess, just a guess, that that's how Floyd obtained the crime scene photos he has posted on his blog. I don't know but he got them somehow. I don't don't see posting your name as a contributor is nothing shameful.

    I simply parted ways because there things I know are untrue that are being accepted as fact & too many suspicions about the driving motivators behind the movie. Also given Floyd's personal conduct both in person and online; it was a simple choice based on integrity.

    So no this isn't Pieschala & Creeden starting trouble or busting on Floyd because were meanies to film makers. I was simply under the impression both verbally and with the word "documentary" it would be accurate.

    I noticed he dodges the hard questions no matter how they are posed. (I have the chat logs) The sheer number of times he has told me not to talk about this. Well Floyd, I wore the uniform for your first amendment unlike you (Yes, John Cole noticed) and who are you anyway.

    You must like having your little cyber following because it's been 4 going on 5 years now!! Geez! How long does it take?

    Sincerely,
    Master C C. Pieschala

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  39. OK I'LL BITE.

    Who suggested this movie to FLOYD?

    And Who funded it initially?

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  40. " Anonymous said...
    OK I'LL BITE.

    Who suggested this movie to FLOYD?

    And Who funded it initially? "

    He's not saying.
    I just found curious though .. just due to the timing.
    Good luck finding the truth buddy ..

    Maybe you should do a movie,
    "Searching for movie suggestions and funding" ;-)

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C Pieschala

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  41. That's what I thought. More bullshit.

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  42. Your right it IS bullshit.

    John Creeden Jr. gets a phone call from Barron Sheppard the day after Floyd leaves. How did he get it? If John Jr. calls me the called ID is always "BLOCKED". The man likes his privacy.

    Second not only is it BS but borderline unethical to kick off a movie project which is going to dig into everything Fall River on Keehan; the same year Billy's Dad dies.

    Good tactics though if you wanted a coup and to get the name BDFS. Even stranger is Ashida Kim's name being in the law suit and his close proximity to Barron Sheppard. I believe Creeden somehere posted the GPS.

    Talk about bullshit!

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  43. Another conspiracy theory? Say it isnt so.

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  44. OMG!! MAN YOU ARE OFF THE DEEP END. SERIOUSLY SEEK HELP.

    IT ISNT BAD ENOUGH THAT YOUR OBVIOUSLY POSTING UNDER YET MORE ALAISES TO BRING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF BUT YOU PUT YET ANOTHER TWIST TO THE STORY.

    THIS IS THE REASON NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. SERIOUSLY YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP. PLEASE GO GET SOME.

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  45. "THIS IS THE REASON NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. SERIOUSLY YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP. PLEASE GO GET SOME."

    --== You tried that already ==--

    Floyd Webb to me
    show details May 17
    http://www.family-institute.org/counseling-and-psychotherapy/who-we-treat/individuals

    Can't hurt you Chris...

    fw

    --
    --== End Floyd Email ==--

    They told me I only need help if I believe the shit you're shoveling.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  46. "THIS IS THE REASON NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. SERIOUSLY YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP. PLEASE GO GET SOME."

    --== You tried that already ==--

    Floyd Webb to me
    show details May 17
    http://www.family-institute.org/counseling-and-psychotherapy/who-we-treat/individuals

    Can't hurt you Chris...

    fw

    --
    --== End Floyd Email ==--

    They told me I only need help if I believe the shit you're shoveling.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  47. Mr. Pieschala, son, God is right there waiting for you to come to him. You don't have to be in all this pain. Only you can go to Gid with that pain so you can be healed of it Mr Pieschala. Talk to your pastor, please.

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  48. To Mr 14th District Cop

    I love generalizations.

    Can you define " fuck ups and assholes"

    Would that be Police Commanders that torture innocent suspects into confessions of crimes they did not commit, or a cop that beats the crap out of a 120 lb female?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_I8I8EPxg

    You witnessed what?
    What can you contribute?
    I think I missed it!

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  49. " Raymond Beauford said...
    Mr. Pieschala, son, God is right there waiting for you to come to him. You don't have to be in all this pain. Only you can go to Gid with that pain so you can be healed of it Mr Pieschala. Talk to your pastor, please."

    Beauford
    Hey is that French? Ya know Bertiaux is too, not only that he likes to preach like you. I wonder what other traits you have in common .. After that sermon did he consecrate you? C`mon be honest ..

    I'll take your advice under advisement. Just like Floyd did when I told him in 2006 "don't go to Fall River."

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  50. "Anonymous said...
    To Mr 14th District Cop

    I love generalizations.

    Can you define " fuck ups and assholes"

    Would that be Police Commanders that torture innocent suspects into confessions of crimes they did not commit, or a cop that beats the crap out of a 120 lb female?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_I8I8EPxg

    You witnessed what?
    What can you contribute?
    I think I missed it!"
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    Funny how I actually agree with somebody here.

    Read Bob Cooley's book it's full of examples of the honesty, integrity & service of the 1st Ward cops during that time.

    Ever notice how the TV show COPS has never been filmed "on location" in Chicago?

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  51. So one of you dickheads got something to say about CPD? Go on and say it. How bout you Mr. Master C. C. Pieschala. You got something to say about the integrity of the majority of CPD officers? I would love to hear it right here because I know dickheads like you guys are never this tough on the street. That is why you come her in the first place right. No consequences for being an asshole.

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  52. hey, Sa Bum Nim C.C. Dumbass, real smart move pissing off the cops.

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  53. " 14thDistrictCop said...
    So one of you dickheads got something to say about CPD? Go on and say it. How bout you Mr. Master C. C. Pieschala. You got something to say about the integrity of the majority of CPD officers? I would love to hear it right here because I know dickheads like you guys are never this tough on the street. That is why you come her in the first place right. No consequences for being an asshole."
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    Put it in context,
    Currently, I think there is a PR problem with the cop that beat the female bartender.

    In John Keehan's time, I was referencing Bob Cooley's book who paints an unflattering picture.

    I was told by a Cop once told me "If you see me while I'm on duty it's never for a good reason." Cops everywhere get the same rap.

    Floyd as you well know; my instructor was a Chaplain (unlike myself) for a county police dept. in Indiana. Cops aren't perfect that's for sure; they're human. He in his ministry he took quite a bit of grief because he didn't treat the cops any different than the prisoners. His opinion was (in a Christian reference) "There's no difference between stars and bars" .. He ministered to both.

    Our organization has a history of working with the law enforcement community. I can prove it with pictures, letters of reference & if you'd like to talk to somebody I can give you the number of one of his fellow Chaplains with a city police dept. in Indiana. The man is an impeccable person of in integrity with a PhD in Christian theology from Moody.

    So do I believe all cops have integrity issues? Clearly not. Are there a few bad apples? Yes there are in every group. Like film makers as a group.

    Does that answer your question?

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  54. There are so much more interesting people to talk to and interview than these individuals who protest they know the truth so loudly, have no track record and no credibility as teachers or fighters.

    None of them seem to be liseted on the internet or in magazines anywhere related to participating in martial arts. All of their google references are to places where they talk m=smack, make wild claims and portray themselves as more intelligent than they act online.

    Looking up these names I wonder what their real agenda is. If they cannot participate in the film, they want to see it destroyed. I am anxious to see the outcome.

    How they think so matter so much to a project of this magnitude seems to escape some very narrow self important minds.

    The outcome is already so predictable.

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  55. " Dorian Ryther said... "
    You truely are ignorant aren't you? I participated in Floyd's project and was even a consultant on it.

    Right off his blog.

    "I also interviewed Chris Pieschala, 4th Dan Tae Kwon Do (Ji Do Kwan) & Hap Ki Do. Chris also has 2 years of study in Diato-ryu Aikijujutsu while in Okinawa.

    Chris has been acting as a consultant for the film. He has been around awhile and has helped me to fill in some blanks and dead ends. He has led me to some interesting sources and helped me establish some leads to Dante's possible training in California and presence in the Bay Area, and possibly Seattle in the early 1960s."

    I even helped raise funds for him.

    http://johnkeehan.blogspot.com/2008/06/time-for-some-fun-fundraiser-friday-at.html

    Do I want to see his film destroyed? Absolutely not. However if it's a documentary it must be truthful and to be truthful you can not ignore Fall River.

    So what am I doing with these posts? Expressing my point of view. You can't possibly understand how much is going to be left out due to the bickering.

    Without Fall River how can one accurately explain The Purolator Armored car robbery?

    Or who Louie DiFonzo was?
    (To the Chicago folks: Yes, he was the one that ripped off CBOT for millions among other things.)

    It's a small view of a large story without those answers.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  56. Mr. Pieschala you illustrate my point. You betray your own ignorance by attempting to project it onto others.

    You have no idea what I am referring to. Whatever your role may once have been, it appears it is not and perhaps never was of much value to the researchers of this project. You truly have no idea.

    You cannot see the scope of it at all, can you. You are totally rapped up in the "Me" aspect of your personal story. Those of us who witnessed those years and participated in them in Chicago, men and women, have a bit more experience with the subject than you can possibly imagine. And we ARE dealing with your "imagination," Mr Pieschala. In going over your posts this past evening I cannot see where any of you bring solid verifiable information to this gentleman's project. And before you attempt to issue accusations and challenges let me stop you. I have no interest here other than as a independent journalist.

    As such I wonder why the gentlemen on the east coast have not managed to get a major article on their school and accomplishments later than 1982. 3rd party witnesses are really no witnesses at all. You only heard it from someone else. We three sit here on this lonesome confused and warped blog waiting on something to happen. Looks to me like you are already being ignored.

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  57. " Dorian Ryther said...
    Mr. Pieschala you illustrate my point. You betray your own ignorance by attempting to project it onto others.

    You have no idea what I am referring to. Whatever your role may once have been, it appears it is not and perhaps never was of much value to the researchers of this project. You truly have no idea. "

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    This is an easy one,
    Clearly you don't know how the martial arts community works. By that I don't mean some brown belt with a few lessons "at the YMCA ya know" .. now dig back a generation or two when the community was much smaller and we all know each other. So take you ignorant opinion and flush it.

    I am the only one that knows both the Fall River side and the Chicago side. With the exception of the "Chicago Three", the run aways. Nobody talks to Floyd. Where is a statement from the Trias folks?

    Why can't he can't get Barb Kemp, John Cole, Creeden Jr or the others to talk to him? Easy he's not telling the truth. This is their history and he's trying to rewrite it in a manner that favors the fakes that came out after John's death, like that scum bag Ashida Kim.

    Floyd you are a flat out liar, when you said nobody knew my instructor. I saw the student records he was at the Ashland school in Calumet park. The big biker with the beard .. If they're being honest they remember him.

    Or maybe not he didn't hang out with dick heads & run away whom are devoid of honor. Apparently to this day given some of the things that have transpired.

    Everybody else does. I have seen his student records on his death bed we talked about Purolator among other things.

    Floyd you're missing the truth on many points. You blatantly lying on others or just not answering on others.

    I don't have to justify my self to any of you pecker checkers. You want to find out we can talk over a friendly lunch, in the ring or out in the alley. I prefer lunch.

    As to the East Coast post 1982, don't know wasn't there I've only read a few things. I know there were some internal things going on & it's not my place to go into them.

    And look this isn't about "me" it's about truth and stopping a history revisionist. Can anybody else say they have even been to Floyd's office? I have many times; even gave an interview he wanted. But due to the way the way things are unfolding he DOES NOT have my permission to use it.

    Like I said I've been talking with Floyd from 2006-2008`ish before my integrity got ahold of me and I couldn't stomach this line of B.S. and longer and walked away. I'm not attacking him just not supporting him.

    Floyd is nuts if he thinks this is over with Billy. Like I said before I know both sides and a third if Floyd counts. Billy is just one battle in a war. Floyd knows I warned him about this the VERY FIRST TIME we met at the dinner by his "office" on Michigan Ave. (in the same building a Bertiaux by the way)

    I wasted years trying to be a peacekeeper to an egotistical double-dealer. I'm done with that. Say what you want. But say it often because it's just another google hit for me and John Creeden's blog.

    There are other things going on around this. Wait and see this is going to be fun!

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

    P.S. Before you run your mouth start at the top and read the whole thing not just the last post.

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  58. Mr. Pieschala are you challenging me, a 64 year old woman to lunch or to a match. You choose. it could be quite interesting. Lunch with you would be far less interesting, from this conversation.

    It is interesting that no one else is on this blog but me and you. Why is that. Maybe because there is not much interest anyway. I am here for curiosity from my girlhood. I still don't understand what you are on about.

    As for understanding the martial arts community, you have no idea who I am and what I do. So the joke is on you. From the content and quality of your posts I see you have no pecker to check.

    What are you Mr. Pieshcala , a peacemaker or trouble maker. What do YOU have to do with John Keehan.
    A few of us are sitting here in amusement wondering what you will say next and if it will make any sense at all.

    Besides being self-important I cannot see whatever your point is, you should work on sticking to specific points and pointing to references which support whatever the heck you are going on about. So far it is a major fail.

    I will say you are quite amusing and have plenty of time on your hands for this stuff. It must be really exciting...post to post, reply and correct...feeling that nogging swell at each online victory. My you are such a man!

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  59. "Mr. Pieschala are you challenging me, a 64 year old woman to lunch or to a match. You choose. it could be quite interesting. Lunch with you would be far less interesting, from this conversation. "

    I don't follow you are you a 64 year old woman?

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  60. -- Continued ---
    So back to the honest of the "documentary". From Floyds own notes items where he either has nothing or is off.

    ** San Francisco Chinatown
    ** - James Yimm Lee
    Bruce Lee's friend?
    ** -T.Y. Wong
    ** -Bruce Lee
    **-Ed Parker
    "Chris has been acting as a consultant for the film. He has been around awhile and has helped me to fill in some blanks and dead ends. He has led me to some interesting sources and helped me establish some leads to Dante's possible training in California and presence in the Bay Area, and possibly Seattle in the early 1960s."

    Bruce Lee & Seattle Floyd you know that I got you Taky who will only give the "official story". I knew that when I gave it to you.

    **- 1959 The Army

    ** The Indiana Crew - Fassbinder
    Hey my Instructor and I are from Indiana. Vic would have known the big bearded biker at the Ashland school too or of him. Sometimes memories fade though.

    ** 1962 Madison Square Garden Tournament Loss to Gary Alexander

    **Jimmy Jones -
    I'll keep my opinions to myself he's very well documented in public domain.

    ** 1965 Dynamite caps on Gene Wykas School
    Ask Dwyer he was there.

    ** The Hairdressing Business -The Women
    Where WDFS was written in his spare time?

    ** The Pornshops - Chicago Outfit Associations
    WWWAAAY off; AND LULLY OWNED THEM YOU KNOW THAT FLOYD! That's where Bertiaux fits in GEEZ! The shops were on State Street not far from the Ashland school!!!!!!! .. and forgot the New England "Outfit"

    ** Used Car lots **

    ** The name change**

    ** The Philosophy **
    Ask Fall River

    ** Karate is For Sissies **
    Read it

    ** Poison Hand in Chinatown **
    Chicago Chinatown or Oakland or both?

    Again "Chris has been acting as a consultant for the film. He has been around awhile and has helped me to fill in some blanks and dead ends. He has led me to some interesting sources and helped me establish some leads to Dante's possible training in California and presence in the Bay Area, and possibly Seattle in the early 1960s."

    ** The reactions - Martial Artist -Comic Book Artists **

    ** The sales **
    Ask Creeden Jr. he ran it because Crista & friends would skim then Billy Aguiar Jr ran it

    ** Dante blackballed **
    By his own?

    -- Now you REALLY need Fall River --
    ** Escape to Fall River, MA **
    ** Luigi DiFonzo **
    ** The purolator robbery **
    ** The Grand Jury **
    ** East Coast 1975 **
    ** Mas Ayoob Interviews **
    Have you even tried?
    ------------------------------
    If you're going to call me out and say I know nothing and I'm not who I say I am, look in the mirror my friend. You weren't there either. Floyd loves to point that out while he leaches information.

    Sorry just call it like I see it. there are more holes in this than swiss cheese.

    So back off and don't imply threats, I figure Floyd put you up to it anyway. just like "14th District Cop".

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  61. Mr. Pieschala with all that information you just posted I am surprised you are not making or writing your own memoirs.

    It looks to me like you are being ignored. Still it is only you and I here commenting. As I said I am curious to see what you will say next

    By the way Taky Kimura is a very old acquaintance of mine. Have you spoken to him? I will give him your regards. Oh and did you mention Barbara Kemp. I am sure I will have a good laugh with this one. You are really giving an old lady a lot to do. Thank you so much and please forgive me for the pecker inspecting joke, I forget myself sometimes, but I abhor arrogance from non-practicing martial artists. You sort of lose tyhe point of it all, don't you?

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  62. Dorian,
    It's funny, this online ball busting is how Creeden and I got to know one another. Then he called me .. 5 hours later, it was like we knew each other for years.

    Up until then never met the guy.

    Who said I wasn't practicing or teaching? If you only knew what I am up to.

    Sincerely,
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  63. I know nothing of this man Creeden nor do I need to. As for you. If you are in Chicago you should know better, But then I know you are not active on the scene.

    What is it youmare trying to say? What do you want to accomplish Mr Pieschala. Your online conduct is not model behavior for your students. I assume you have none. If you do, Lord help them.

    Martial Arts teachers teach, not stir up commotion online. But you are free to do as you wish. I am just calling it as I see it.

    It is still just you me and my retired friends here watching for a good laugh. Just a few old ladies are seeking this blog out for amusement. Do you have children Mr Pieschala? I wonder what they will see when they google your name and what they will think.

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  64. Ok Dorian I've had enough of you..

    Are you Vic Ryther relative..You know him the World Karate Champion..
    I jave some questions for him..

    I love it when Jack offs like you cant just come out say what you want... ARE YOU CHICKEN

    Maybe Pieschala takes your head off, teach you some fuckem up waza....

    Stop playing your games you amuse me...You know someone huh big deal

    Another Floyd Webb dickhead....

    State your intentions and be gone the truth is the truth...

    Oh and by the way I have three times the hits than Floyd Webbs blog... Why is that Dorian..And his blog is three years older...

    So run along little boy your gonna get hurt...

    Dont be like Barron shepperd and be like I want a MMA match, No we put the belt on and when one walks off, thats the one that wins... no refs...

    So Dorian stop your whining floyd webb is losing hands down... and the court case I have against him Fair Use isnt going to save him.. Write about that in your paper...


    hahahahahahah

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  65. Oh Dorian, I thought I smelled Floyd,
    You can never seem to wash off the smell. Your post comes right after my Bullshido posts where I point out Creeden's blog.

    Your quote "Do you have children Mr Pieschala?" I find disconcerting.

    I really don't have much to say other than bringing up another man's children is a line you don't cross. You should know that; would you like it?

    I'm going to look into it, no threat implied or intended. Just so we're clear you can't imply threats then bring up my kids without me showing some concern.

    This reminds me of a story about Jaco's boys and some of the implied threats they made on this topic.

    And yeah I am in Chicago. C`mon over to my house I live in Bolingbrook we can talk about this mono-a-mono .. I want to be clear on what you meant. It kinda put me in a bad way.

    Funny how all of this comes after my Bullshido posts. Only two, but it does show the lengths people will go through to further their own agenda.

    I'm not going to hold this against you but I will wager a CNOTE that FLOYD had something to do with it.

    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  66. pieschala, you are a punk who is just tough online. plain and simple. creedden has already been proven to be a fake coward wimp. i see you online and know you will never show up for a throwdown, not even n your own backyard. i am in chicago coward, keyboard punk asshole, sissy. come get some. name the time and place in chicago, but it has to be on video. we want people to see this so there is no mistake, dikhead.

    you call it, pussy.

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  67. Oh stop your to funny threats from someone who doesnt have the balls to come forward.. How Floyd Webb and Chicago is that..

    Hey ask Floyd Webb this for me why did he give Barron Shepperd my fathers phone number he cant answer that one....

    PUSSIES.....

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  68. Sum Bum can't speak for himself now? You talking for Sum Bum. I wanna see if see if his wife will let him out to come to a gym and show what a man he is. You guys are a hoot. You should have your own Adult Swim TV series. Keyboard Kung Fu Killers.

    Sum Bum is probably no fighter either, just like Creeden.

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  69. " Anonymous said...
    Sum Bum can't speak for himself now? You talking for Sum Bum. I wanna see if see if his wife will let him out to come to a gym and show what a man he is. You guys are a hoot. You should have your own Adult Swim TV series. Keyboard Kung Fu Killers.

    Sum Bum is probably no fighter either, just like Creeden."

    I told you where I live. Ring the doorbell coward.

    Fucking retards I swear!

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  70. "Oh stop your to funny threats from someone who doesnt have the balls to come forward.. How Floyd Webb and Chicago is that..

    Hey ask Floyd Webb this for me why did he give Barron Shepperd my fathers phone number he cant answer that one....

    PUSSIES....."

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    The above passage is clear evidence that you suffer from envy of another person and you clearly have malfunctioning balls and are getting no pussy, hence you call people the very thing you cannot have because of some sexual inadequacy you are experiencing. Working out lose some weight and hit the titty bars man. You might get lucky. You definitely won't get lucky here on line

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  71. Post your name,
    Don't run & hide you're a sad ninja if you can't say it to my face Follow your worhipshipfulness leader's example. Say it to my face.

    Or just say it like you wish that would happen when you know the idea scares you like being sued in federal court.

    You spying prowess SUCK BALLS your are a bad bad naughty little cyber ninja.

    I live in Bolingbrook IL and probably am the only Pieschala; Not many of us, like those who know the truth... ring my doorbell. My custom attitude adjust truth delivering services .. oh and IT work.

    I'll give a the martial arts lest for free but it will be quick and I hope you like the taste of blood and soil.

    And since you don't have the fancy the book learning and you're not as adroit as your holy leader Floyd "praise be his name" (oh, since you have challenges adroit means skill & quick witted or skillful mastery of) in the English language as his holiness does.

    I will lower myself and put it in terms you understand. You might think I have sex problems and am a mother fucker, if so keep your mom off the street corner. A few sailors from Great lakes have emailed me and want their $2.37 back.

    Me I thought she was better that what I a imagine the sheep you fuck are like. So she can keep the nickel .. though she still owes me three cent in change.

    So what what were you talking about any anonymous one? Thank for allowing us to log you IP it only helps my lawyers.

    And you wanna talk fat?! oh nameless picture-less pussy? Have you seen FLoyd in the video? He looks like two walruses humping a bucket of lard.

    So birth defective? What was your point? Besides to have diarrhea of the mouth? I forget.

    I don't think you had one.

    But please post often ! Have a nice day !
    Master C. C. Pieschala

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  72. I have been hearing about this controversy about John Keehan. My father used to speak of him as if he was the boogey man and with a morbid fascination regarding his antics. Did any of you guys actually ever know or talk to him.

    Please don't get me into whatever hassles you have going here. I am just asking a simple question. I never knew the man actually existed until a week ago. My late father just made it all sound so unbelievable.

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  73. Years later and this thread still cracks me up.

    Sa Bum Nim Pieschala

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