STILL NOTHING ON JOHN KEEHAN A.K.A. COUNT DANTE ON FLOYD WEBBS BLOG.

Their it is in a nut schell, who ostasized him who betrayed him. It was the Chicago karate scene that he built His friends his business partners who he did promote threw him. Guys I would love to show you those financial records from that time. Ed Miller has three school whith Robert Kylatta. John invested in Dwyers school heavily.

I have all the paper work and I have the person who ran the WKF from the mid 60's to 1988. And the one of the original Black Dragon Fighting Society founding member. John F Creeden Jr my father..

These are the only Black Belts ever promoted by John Keehan in the real Black Dragon Fighting Society and Black Belts in The "Dante Fighting System. They can produce their BDFS diplomas can Chicago no they can't

http://johnkeehan.blogspot.com/

See if Floyd Webb had really anything substantial give us a clip or a hint. You have plenty of info.

Your blog is less about John Keehan post after post you stray away from the facts. I have a released some 30 items pertaing to John Keehan and his friends ship on of them being Andy Wilson.

Andy was A Black P stone and then a panther. A select few knew of him only those close to John. This proves 1966..

So for everyone one is clear on this Chicago betrayed Keehan was before 1970, and thats was the icining on the cake. " Karate For Sissies" 1970 and Konsevics death....

FLOYD WEBB IS NOT THE EXPERT ON JOHN KEEHAN

Marc Lully knew John Keehan threw porno.

A little story from my father.

Lully tried to use John Keehan as a buffer about not paying street taxes and using John name as supposed muscle. And that why the mob showed up at the car lot you can reference that from Bob Cooleys book. That ended that. The mob tried to silence John Keehan twice in two weeks prior, John thought he was being mugged. One time at Cabrine Green three guy armed with knives tried John lets just say they were unsuccessful.

And this is when he had a sit down with Tony Accardo first under boss to Sam Giancana. And then Sam Giancana himself and then they tried again.

And the second time it was coming out of Marc Lully's occult bookstore Atlantis on the north side. And he was going to his brown cadillac with the gold crest on it. My fathers laughs and said he use to tell Keehan that that was a target the golden crest..

Then Giancana was brought back again because he couldnt get rid of the guy. They met at the Chicago playboy club were he was working doing make up.

What funny about it is alot of the stuff in the occult bookstore is the same stuff in Marc Lullys occult bookstore Atlantis. He has the same Rosecrusion book that Lully had in his. And alot of the wall hangings are the same..

Here is the occult bookstore in Chicago.http://occultbookstore.com/home/

Floyd Webb NEEDS TO REALIZE WE KNOW EVERYTHING THEIR IS TO KNOW ABOUT JOHN KEEHAN. He was my fathers personal friend. This stuff really pisses him off. I told Floyd Webb sometime ago this was Marc Lully. Well heres the proof. Looks like an older Marc Lully doesnt it. This footage was shot in the basement of John Keehan"s Tiara apartment. These guys hung around together.

I ask my father all the time "did he keep his personal life separate from his martial arts life and he always answerered "yes" he did.. But martial arists are egotists and they loved the broads John would bring around Fuck he said they were Playboy bunnies.. And John Keehan would gross them pout by telling them he would go down on girls with their periods and then he would pick the blood clots from his teeth.. He tells me that Im just like John and Bill and my father said. Im such a Ball busting prick. And that what John Keehan was a ball buster. That was John being John...

What you must all remember, they were personel friends of John Keehans. Everything in the magazineS are from fall River how is Webb going to explain that. He cant goes around us..

I was sitting in the car with my father and I asked him about John Keehan being ostracized. And specifally the dojo war. My father laughed and said Jim Konsevic was no choir boy and it would be a shame if Floyd Webb portrail of him would be like that..Who knows he said when he watches it he will know what the truth and whats bullshit..

As for being ostrasized that had more to do with him tell in the purists that their kata sucked,and it was inneffective. And that included Dwyer Felkoff, Edgell his friend were pissed.

Floyd Webb said to Chris Piescala that the were all part of some scam the "monestary of the seven rays"mail order thing, I say bullshit Marc Lully was a satanist and so was his gay counter part Bertrauix. Chris Pieschala told me Floyd Webb has nothing but 30 interviews and selected pictures and thats it.. About ten are martial artists trained with John Keehan. But the key ones are left out Ed Miller, Tom Sexton, Rob Rose.. The guys that counted to The World Karate federation

I've known of these people dating back into the early eighties. And my father knew them all personally in the 60's and the 70's.. Its you guys who dont know the truth..

The wrestlers stage name is Horst Rheinhart, but not his real name. He was a personel friend of William v Aguiar Jr. This nfootge was the only footage put in the mail order business. Floyd webb doesnt know what he talking about..

To Floyd Webb your blog is less about John Keehan, but I didnt say that Jack off. It was Lob Sing. Look Floyd you are Joey Chicago the IP's come to the Jazz Institue of Chicago. So its you or someone you know..So stop with your stupid ignorant shit you pompus fool..

GROW UP MY FATHER WAS JOHN KEEHANS BEST FRIEND.. THATS MY SOURCE AND JOHN COLE WHO DO YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF SOFT HANDED FAGS. HEY FLOYD LEARN A KATA OR SOMETHING.. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE ARTS SATANIST....

JOHN PATRICIO AND FLOYD WEBB STARTED AGUIAR BUSTED

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Style: none Quote: Originally Posted by masterofbludd i get the feeling that isn't what floyd plans to do, as floyd continues to kiss this loser's ass and insist he has real skill. i'm also starting to think that fr bdfs, for as rude as they are, were right on the money when they initially stated that sheppard/ kim and floyd were in cahoots from the get go. How hilarious! I supposed to take statements like this serious? It means nothing, what YOU think, John Creeden III, has no bearing on any of what I will or will not do in the film. Only John Creeden III tried to make claims of some kind of "conspiracy" and was an early legal advisor to Bill Aguiar. The conspiracy exists only in your little mind. You have had every opportunity to learn to play well with others, but you squander every chance you get. You should get a new script to play from, this one hs become very old.

See Floyd your the problem you post something on one blog and go somewere else to slander another person you have to be exposed for the little weasel you are. Your the one who started Billy busted thing. I heard it right out of Felkoff's mouth when I talked to the singapore sailor.
AND JOHN PATRICIO HAS TOTALLY BETRAYED BILLY.

You seem to think your smart Floyd huh,your nothing your a loser. I haven't bothered responding to this little game. But your losing ground the world is seeing your bullshit now. One things for sure I'm suing you hard Floyd and so is my father. Keep my name out of your mouth. I see that you haven't took down the slanderous shit about me from your blog. But you want me to do it. So here what I'm gonna do. I'm putting it all back up. I thought that you have some sense in your feeble little mind. Ya I do hate you Floyd I really do your ignorance is warming.

MY VERSION OF KARATE IS FOR SISSIES

Wing Chun kung-fu: Like most of the stylized kung-fu systems out there they get caught up in the who's instead of the why's and how's. The fixed positions and the inability to expand out of their systems fighting position leaves it vunerable to take downs, angled attacks, multiple person situations, and takes too long to implement the ideas to practical use.

Taekwondo: You're represented by the biggest morons out there WTF and ATA. These orginizations are out for your money, boosting their prestige, and brain washing you into believing that there is a purpose to what they are doing. All the while, WTF specifically, handing you this crock of shit on how long taekwondo has been in existance. Because of their predjudice outlook toward the karate/Japanese culture in which it originated from they've developed a sport based on a game played over 1000 years ago and make people think they're actually learning how to defend themselves. They refuse to look toward proper training for fighting effectively taking them out of the true realm of martial arts. Now there are some fairly solid TKD orginizations out there but they're not represented by the vast majority thus undermining any attempt at validating their system.

Kempo: Like saying car, there is no true identity for this system of martial arts. Are we Japanese, American or Chinese. Who give a rats ass. Most systems have tried their damndest (is that really a word?) to validate a fairly effective group of fighting techniques while others get bogged down in the muck of trying to lay claim to some wierd Chinese Shaolin authenticity. Kenpo/Kempo has been represented over many years as some of the hardest hitting, most ferocious fighters in existance. There was a reason they became popular but because of greeed they watered it down to a state where you'd be lucky to find an instructor that wouldn't get you killed in your first encounter on the street. Now a majority of kempo guys are fat, out of shape fucknuts who are more interested in getting your check book then getting in shape. They have gone the way of TKD but fortunately most schools are changing for the better and maybe in the next decade or so they can rise to the prestige they deserve.Shaolin Kung-fu/Wu Shu: Doesn't exist people it's fucking myth, as a martial arts you are learning to be a fucking gymnast/ballet dancer. Fucking stage performers are all they are. If you like that shit fine but stop licking the balls of these so called Chi masters as if most their stuff wasn't parlor tricks and simple athletic acrobatic techniques. Simple and to the point.Other systems of Kung-fu: if you aren't training in modern ways then you're not training in Kung-fu. Systems were not to be mired down to tradition they were supposed to change with the time, passing on techniques that worked and adding new ones on to make their respective kwoons "bad ass". Unfortunately you've all seen too many Jet Li and Jackie Chan circle jerk movies and believe half that shit is real. It's the fucking movies people get over it.

Judo: Fucking turning into a bunch of pansies I swear, they outlaw so many moves we're soon going to be left with nothing but a pussified sumo match where only pushing is allowed.Jujitsu: The problem here is identity. Like so many arts Jujitsu wears many masks and covers many different areas of grappling. Some Jujitsu systems look like modern MMA events while others are so bogged down in theoretical shit that they have no comprehension on what works and what doesn't work. Bottom line is if you haven't done it against a fully resisting opponent you'll have no idea if it'lll really work. Most of these practitioners get tied down to tradition and never question for a second their "masters" teaching because they've seen him/her throw some cooperative bitch around. Find Jujitsu that works people.

Brazillian Jujitsu: Unfortunately for BJJ schools around the world they're represented by a bunch of newbie snot nose punks. I've seen the way they teach classes and it's a psychologists dream world. A bunch of Males trying to establish a level of Alpha dominance and force their peers to submit and thus establishing a pecking order in the microcosm that is. Two type of guys come out of these gyms. The guys that learn decent technique because they put their ego asided establish a good level of respect for one another and learn and the fuckers who develope a bully mentality and never get past their own ego. There's nothing wrong with pride until the pride gets in the way of true learning. I saw over a dozen BJJ fighters go into matches against 'inferior' styles because they saw Royce Gracie do it in the UFC. Unfortunately most of those guys forgot they were doing a sport and the Gracies had been accepting challenges for decades before the UFC came around, their style was designed in neutralizing the mono stylistic stand up fighter who believed they couldn't be taken down. The guys that get mired into the BJJ is all you need to know get caught up into the same downfalls as all the other systems that eventually failed due to their inability to change. The minute you don't fear and give respect to another style is the day you're going to leave yourself open to defeat.

SAMBO: Got caught up in nationalistic pride and failed to branch out beyond the neccessity that developed in the first place. Look we can do throws and all kinds of joint locks but we won't choke people out. How much sense did that make? Fortunately it has made the changes neccessary but sport sambo has not changed with the time and will not succeed until it gets over a lot of the rules that limits it's capablities. Most sambo guys turned to jujitsu, judo and wrestling, you rarely see a pure samboist anymore. Then you have that group that got caught up in the "combat" aspect of sambo. Take a look at the Jujitsu section of this and find out what we think about theoretical martial artist.Ninjitusu: God what a bunch of freaks. Can this shit work, I guess so but whats your fucking goal, you want to be a power ranger or a fucking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. Seriously, what's the point in doing

Ninjitsu? Fuck Ninjitsu up its fucking ass I have no respect for the art so I might as well end this shit right here. I here the Taijitsu hand to hand can be quite effective but the other stuff is queer eye for the straight guy gay.

Aikido: WTF, artful form of evasion that's all this is. Great fucking concept but stop saying you're a martial art, you're not. If you're not going to engage the opponent and you're a bunch of whining pacifistic cultist seeking enrichment then fine, go eat your tofu and circle jerk in the corner and leave the real martial artist to the real people. Don't get me wrong I love some of this shit but if you like most of the aspects and want to learn how to defend yourself find an Aikijujitsu school that does some level of sparring and leave this shit to the ball room dancers.

Muay Thai: Muay Thai is not kickboxing people, it's what they do but it's not kickboxing. I'm sick of hearing this shit. Muay Thai teaches more than sparring in the ring. Great form of fighting terrible for self-defense. What's that? You heard me, specifically for guys. After you elbow somebody in the face and knee the crap out of their body what are you going to tell the cops "oops?". God no, if you want to learn self-defense take some Japanese Jujitsu/Combat

SAMBO stuff, at least if the theoretical stuff doesn't work you can beat the crap out of them afterwards.Kickboxing: It's a fucking sport people get over it.Boxing: They're all jealous of MMA fighters. I hate boxing. Hate it. Wrestlers: Being on your back is not gay.Freestyle grapplers: This includes the grappling gambit here, going to the ground on the street sucks ass. Been there, done that, if you have and got away untouched you got lucky.

Krav Maga: Probably one of the most effective theoretical based systems I've come across next to Combat sambo. But then again you saw what I said about Combat SAMBO. Unfortunately they got greedy too and allowed a bunch of half educated punks go out and teach there system for obscene amounts of money only to teach nada.So these are the nutriders I've come across in my nearly 4 years with bullshido formerly known as Mcdojo.com. It's been said before but let me summarize it for you. If you are at a school and you're happy so be it. If you want to look for an effective system that you can learn how to fight you must learn stand-up and grappling. If you want to learn self-defense make sure there's some level of effective sparring that allows you to attempt some of the theoretical ideas. For those stand up guys that think they can't be taken down I hope a grappler comes along and drops you on your head. For those grapplers who think they can take anybody down I hope you get KTFO. For those of you who don't spar and think your shit really works I hope you get mugged and for all you bullshit artist that weren't even worth my time in mentioning I hope you contract a painful disease and die like the piece of shits you are

.*PS if I missed your style up here and you think you need to say someting let me intercept you comment and use the universal ::: middle finger :::: salute.

CLARITY OF THE JOHN KEEHAN SIUATION

I'm gonna outline this a certain way, sometimes I came across so aggressive you really couldn't understand what I was saying. I know that now, and understand a simple pause and control will get a better effect.





I remember John Keehan so clearly for years back. I remember him standing in the mirror, he was so hyped here, he did demonstrations and demonstrations here. I watched the transformation of John Keehan to Count Dante when he was standing in my fathers bathroom. I really never understood as a child, what he was really doing. I always around him and my father riding around in his big Cadillac with the Dante crest on the door. But you here things, you do as a kid right, I heard things right out of his mouth John Keehans, in alot of ways. I never understood then.





It was about 14 when I really put it together, the names the places the times. See Billys father Bill Jr had it all tucked away the paperwork. And only certain people could see it. I'm gonna outline a little of what I know. NOW I'm gonna piss people off. I'm gonna go to certain times in history, and answer some question about me and Billy.

1. Me and Billy are not partners in the Federal Lawsuit, my so called business arrangement I wanna open a school here with him and go from their. Their are alot of people here who respect Billy and his father. And my father too, Floyd Webb once said Ashida kim kept the BDFS alive farther than Bill Jr. Did Ashida Kim have a school for 40 years NO, Bill Jr did and it was strong for alot of years, at least at my time. Billy Jr use to laugh at Ashida Kim. He use to say Ashida Kim tie's his belt like tie.


2. Does Billy own it, Ya he does. He has the negatives to everything and the three Christa letters prove it.And you guys will say, no its not notarized, well you don't need one. That's the way it is.
3. Who told Floyd Webb he doesn't own it? Good question your not gonna get that view from a copyright search no way. I know what their all thinking, its been this way way before Floyd movie. For 35 years it been this way. he's listening to the people who fucked John Keehan over.
4. Dwyer, Oh come on this is too funny JAWNEY in his tree house is laughing. Think of the time when Dwyer and John keehan were caught at Wkya's school. Blasting caps and fuses blowing out his windows huh, They were in their mid twenties. Well at the time this is right out of John Keehans own mouth. The were massive Mob bombings their in lower Chicago, that he and Dwyer were doing. that's why Floyd Webb has got an FBI report. Because they were added to the list of potential suspects, they got arrested and the bombing stopped, funny were would someone get blasting cap's and fuses, and not go to jail. THE MOB
5. Felkoff I've said it once and I'll say it again he ran and came back, he ran. He didn't stand and fight, and ya he fought and still ran. He left a comrade behind he is SF he knew the circumstance. John keehan isn't entirely to blame.
6. Lawrence Day was one of the Chicago three, I told my father what Floyd Webb said about Day being outside the night of the dojo war, he said DAM RIGHT HE WAS the fucking coward.John Keehan said he was the weakest of the three. Its funny Lawrence Day was never in the WKF and know he wants to be in a fake IBDFS. Just goes to figure, I talked to him he talks like he smokes 5 packs a day.
7. Marc Lully aka El Shitan if you see the two pictures on the left of the video, were painted by Marc Lully back in 1968 Dante's and 1969 William V Aguiar Jr. There was a cosmic John painting huge at least 5 feet by 6 feet thats burned in the school fire in 1976.
8. Bertauix his church in the Fine Arts building has been their for 60 years, and was given or ordained by Manuel C . Lampartner, Ya a voodoo gnostic right! If you like young children. Read this go down to Michael Bertrauix http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/xi.htm you will notice that at the same day Lully was initiated so was John Keehan in 1967. What you don't know is, so was Willian V Aguiar in 1969 by Marc Lully.
9. Woodrow Edgell, I like Woody but he had no school, the Ju-te school he had, was out of the 8111 and Ashland school, Thats right John Keehans school he was out of the same building and dojo the same dojo just a different door. Thats letter that Floyd posted from Edgell makes me laugh, when he said he helped John keehan with classes. and at Keehan had a 7TH dan in Ju-te
10. Lets not forget Art Rapkin who had a hell of a time explaining where the tournament money went. Ask him why he was suing Keehan for 100,000 in 1969.
11. It not me Patricio running the camera, It your good friend Timmy.

See I'm a singular person I see the bullshit they throw I know the truth, I wish you guys could talk to my father he would tell you all of it the time's dates and circumstances. He's the only one left who really knows the truth. so i hoped this helps answering some question

Thank You

Floyd and the old timers you can't re write history, your the people who have disgraced his name in the 60's and now in 2008. Honor his memory and let it go, he did.

THE FORMATION OF THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS

Their is so much of this that people in Chicago and the world don't know about John. he had over 47 profitable businesses in the United States and another 20 overseas that were even more profitable. See this is what everyone doesn't know about John. he already came from an affluent family his dad a doctor and a banker, so money to start up was no problem.

Just the cigarettes and the matches made him one and a half million dollars. Which were Turkish blend he owned a tobacco farm outside of a small town named Esenyurt in central Turkey.

I wanna right this accurately and clear up some misconception's about the time line of the mail order business and and diplomas and the book World Deadliest Fighting Secrets. The book was made in 1968 and then copyrighted in 1969. The ad originally ran in comic books then in magazines like "This is Karate" and "Ring" magazine and "Black Belt".

This from the second page of the catalog which was released in 1971. It would have been released earlier, but Jim Konsevic's death pushed it back almost a year and a half before its release. From John Keehans tax returns he made two million dollars from the book it self. In 1970 William V Aguiar Jr was appointed President of the Black Dragon Fighting Society and the World Karate Federation. See this is when my father John F Creeden Jr became manager and ran the mail order business and the BDFS and the WKF. But John Keehan was at the helm and still CEO of Cherry Productions which at the time over saw the laundry mat, the used car lots the wig companies and his overseas corporations along with several other business that I am not allowed to talk about, also their were business dealing concerning Marc Lully and properties that they both owned in Calumet City, Chicago. And the mail order business was perfect to wash illegal money and also drug money and the money from the pornography. also he was washing money for the mob at that time so cash businesses were the thing to do.

When you read it is say that John Keehan would retire on February 3, 1975 and William V Aguiar would take on all challenges. its also say Wiliam Jr was the President of the BDFS and the WKF. It was from this catalog that had to have to get diplomas. You couldn't get the diplomas before 1971. When Keehan/Dante was forced out of Chicago never to speak to them again.

This is how the mail order business ran, with Christa Keehan and Barbara Kemp running the show their were 11 women who ran the business out of the so called grocery store under the name the "US Gung Fu Society" . Their were several P.O. boxes and the ones who were full from a certain area and had alot of mail for the book that were his would push his advertising. John Keehan had to push his advertising even more but he wanted to market more before the advertising for the book petered out. So he came up with the idea of mail order black belts geared for the ages of 10 to 15 years olds. Along with clothes and other assorted items.

So John Keehan who couldn't trust no one now in Chicago pitched a business deal to William V Aguiar Jr and John F Creeden Jr to invest 25,ooo dollars a piece into the World's Deadliest Fighting Secrets and the catalog. . My father grossed over 135,000 dollars his end in the first year in 1972 in just the return sales of the book.

See in 1969 you could get the book and a brochure a small piece of paper that would give you the so called signed card of Count Dante and that's it, no Diplomas nor no rank was ever given to anyone in Chicago ever.

So in 1971 he sought out more money to bring a catalog, including clothes and yawara sticks, shrukiens, patches and decals and footage of himself fighting a wrestler{ sorry Mike Scremph the Dance of Death wasn't sold to anyone in the catalog or to anyone else, if anyone wants a copy send me your address and I'll mail it to you. To clear up all the bullshit people are throwing.}

Note: I would like to clear this up certain people in the Chicago martial arts scene in the 60's are claiming they were promoted in the BDFS this is not true at all. Felkoff, Day , Dwyer, and Woodrow Edgell. they need to get their stories straight. I write this to save them from embarrassment. All they could do is come up with a fake Felkoff degree supposedly signed by Count Dante and William V Aguiar jr. And if anyone knows anything about The Fall river BDFS we got our Black Belt in the Dante System of Fighting. So until they can come up with a reasonable explanation for this and produce real diplomas the their frauds and fakes. And if you look at the the International BDFS and Felkoffs BDFS site. Its all World Karate Federation. So the more they put up the more frauds they look.

Also so I find this funny John Keehan affiliated with Koga Ryu ninjitsu, Has anyone read Karate is for Sissie's, i think John keehan had a certain disdain for Orientals. this further shows that the Chicago martial artist that are claiming BDFS are way off on how John Keehan thought.

Also Samuel j Lonewolf was not nor ever in the USKA, nor the World Karate Federation nor the Black Dragon Fighting Society. so can someone explain to me who this guys is?

And as far as beatings go from the old guys, were are their students i would like to show some of their students the Dante Fighting System. I will be brining back the World Karate Federation in the coming months. I will bring back the organization that Dante made.

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